Birmingham City look like being a loser in the ultra competitive Championship promotion race this season after a trio of back-to-back defeats has left Garry Monk's side down in 12th place, six points off the last play-off spot, with only nine matches remaining.
Monk will be hoping he can stop the rot when he makes the trip to in-form Preston this weekend, prior to the international break.
So have Birmingham lost too much ground in the race for the play-offs?
We discuss......
Louie Chandler
"I think you have to say they have now.
"Monk has done a tremendous job even turning them into a top-half team but the six-point gap is looking insurmountable.
"Time to start planning for next season."
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Gary Hutchinson
“Far too much.
“The fact they were there anyway was a shock.
“They had no right being top ten, not with their concerns off the field.
“What a job Garry monk has done.”
Jay Taylor
“They are only six points off, but I think it is more their form that will prove making the play-off problematic.
“Points-wise it is still a gap they can close down but form wise, they are in a slump, and that will affect them the most.
“There are too many teams above them, too, so they should go out and enjoy the rest of the campaign.”